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W. Stormer

We can and should get rid of petroleum based plastics, and clean up both the beaches and the gyres both. Even the corn-based has environmental impacts. It won't go away on its own.

Jeffery Ernst

Beach clean ups are a great idea that have a myriad of beneficial social impacts. They provide a socially rewarding experience that helps bring people together with a tangible and very visually rewarding goal. It also helps people develop a stake in their local environment, and take personal responsibility for the sensitive and beautiful places in which they live. However, that said, they are not a direct solution to the problem as the above article would suggest. Something that I very much doubt Marcus said in that context.

Instead beach clean ups are a teaching tool that helps people have a healthy day of exercise while doing something positive that allows them to connect to their environment. They may help instill a repulsion to the more gratuitous forms of single use plastic in our environment, none of which I am advocating; and they may help people think about the end life for the thousands of other single use products that dispute there re-usable mug they still buy and use everyday because they are a ubiquitous part of our culture, but they will not solve the problem in any significant sense.

The solutions (notice the plurality), like many to the problems our world face; are far more complicated. In many cases they will involve new industrial development and new polymers, such as PLA; at production volume that will allow for more thoughtful product development at cost effective scales. There is also good old fashioned recycled cardboard and paper, which could easily replace many thousands of single use plastic packages, just not at the price point provided by the plastic alternative in our society.

Neither of the two options I just mentioned are full blown solutions to the problem and I don't present them as such, I just wish people would stop trying to understand complicated issues in single paragraphs.

Anyone interested in the Trip from Hawaii to Vancouver will not be disappointed (perhaps a poor choice of words) in the experience. I look forward to discussing the issues, which you will obviously have a passionate interest in; in great detain on-board.

Also for got sakes stop comparing things to Texas...

Finally...Zan Dubin Scott, that picture at the top of this article of Charlie Moore chasing that bottle around in the middle of the North Pacific Subtropical Gyre was taken by myself unassisted by you. Please take credit for your own work next time.

thanks
Jeffery Ernst

Zan Dubin Scott

Dear Jeffery: Thanks for letting us know. We will credit you for the photo going forward. For the record, I did not take credit for this photo, I only forwarded it to the writer, who did not credit me either. He only noted that it was "courtesy" of me that he received it.

Zan Dubin Scott

Brian Foley

We've updated the credit to reflect that Jeffery Ernst took the first photo of this article.

mratzel

Thanks for this update and what you'll be doing on your trip. Is there going to be any kind of report about what you find? I study this phenomenon every year with my students and will share this with them...and I know they'll be interested to hear how things turn out?

Thanks again.

marsha

Gina

Hi,
After seeing a the 3min video clip on the Garbage Patch last year, I have vowed to live a virgin Plastic Free Year during 2011 to 'be the change I want to see'. I think Algalita is doing a fantastic job - keep it up!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Plastic-Free-Year/114804711924412

Gina

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